Jack Ma Explains why Christianity is so Crucial for Societies


Jack Ma, China’s richest man and CEO of Alibaba Holding Company, gave an interview in September, 2014 that was posted on the Chinese internet site Taobao. He spoke about his views about what made America strong in history, saying that Christianity is the core of why the west did so well in history. But he also thinks that in the last 30 years, America has focused too much on war and Wall Street instead of investing in the Midwest and middle class and this is causing many of its current problems.

First there is a Chinese version (but it is missing the last 2 paragraphs of the English translation for some reason.
Second there is the English translation.
Third, there is part of another article by Jack Ma, pointing  out America’s bad mistake on pouring money into war, instead of its own people.

There are also quite a few other scholars in China who have noticed the link between Christianity and national success. Here’s one:

This could be useful to share with your Chinese friends.


I found the article of Jack Ma, but some parts of it have been skillfully cut: I can’t find the last two photographs. I’m sorry. Here are the original script and a incomplete video(about 2 mins;No subtitle.)

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【original script】

幸福是自己找出来的,今天中国的经济的高速发展我刚才讲了,但是我们的价值体系,我们的文化体系受到了摧毁,最早新文化 运动摧毁了旧文化没有建设新文化,文化大革命又把我们很多价值体系搞乱了,今天有的学者来讲,我并不完全同意中国不是法制社会,好像有了一套法律我们就能解决这些问题,不是那回事。”


“美国发展是因为法制吗?就是这个人漂亮是因为鼻子漂亮。不对。大家记住美国社会的发展它是基于基督教文化的,在基督教文化上面建立法律体系,在这个法 律体系建立政治体系,在这个上面建立起他们的领导人的选举体系,整个体系比你的想的复杂得多,这仅仅是简简单单的一部分,假如我们今天这个价值文化体系被摧毁的情况下,随便拿一点别人的价值体系,等于沙滩上建楼,建不起来。”












美国人相信《圣经》,很多人周末都去教堂接受心灵的洗礼,《圣经》中教育人们友好、行善、道德高尚,许多人便怀着这样的信仰去生活,去与 人相处。正如人们所说:多一个教堂,少一座监狱;多一个基督徒,少一个罪犯。




基督教文化还宣扬天赋人权,珍惜生命,尊重人权。受基督教思想的影响,美国人视民主、平 等、自由为生命,永远都选择民主政体,自由经济,专制、独裁与特权在美国人的思想深处就没有其存在的余地。



(the last two photographs are lost.)


by Jack Ma or Ma Jun/马云 (in Chinese), Founder, CEO of Alibaba Holding Co. September 22, 2014
A good life depends on self-discovery. Today, China’s expedient economic development seemingly has brought us much satisfaction, but our value system has totally collapsed. Our culture has been greatly damaged. The earliest New Life Movement in the 1930’s replaced old traditional values but without much success. Later on, the Cultural Revolution of 1966-1976 totally destroyed our value system, producing a confused society with no positive value whatsoever.


Today, many Chinese scholars look to the West, especially America, for the right answer, and they think that adopting the America legal system would change China from the inside out. Wrong, wrong! When you say someone is good-looking, is it simply because of his or her nose? Of course not. America’s strength is built upon her Christian cultural heritage. From her belief system came her legal system, and from her legal system came her political system – with power given to the people to elect their leaders. The whole system of American society has evolved from her Christian foundation, permeating to every aspect of her people’s lifestyle, educational institutions, medical practice, public safety, social welfare, social structure, and role of government.


I firmly believe that you, as concerned citizens of China, will help us to look for a positive value system to be established on this land. Only until then will China start to move forward in real progress with a bright future. As for America’s mainstream cultural values, it is not hard to discover where they originated. America’s first rock of democratic foundation was the Mayflower Compact in 1620, stating:

In the Name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten…having undertaken, for the glory of God and advancement of the Christian faith… a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia, do by these present solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic for better ordering and preservation…”


Furthermore, in the Declaration of Independence, the Word of God is mentioned four times. If the Word of God was omitted from this document, the spirit of the Declaration of Independence would be non-existent, thus meaningless. Christianity is the foundation of America’s culture. Like a tree’s root system that continuously feeds and nourishes the whole tree, Christianity has nourished America. Only until you understand this close association will you know the truth of America’s success as a great nation.


In America, the concept of democracy, justice, and liberty for all originated in her Christian faith, with the Bible, the Word of God, as its source. Ideas such as equality, forgiveness, unconditional love, even forgiving your enemy, were based on Scripture and taught and practiced among believers who founded America as a new nation over 200 years ago.


Basic Christian teachings include the belief of human beings’ sinful nature -that man is limited and imperfect with many flaws. Therefore, man-made systems will also be flawed. This means power needs to be checked and balanced because absolute power will corrupt absolutely. This is why separating the powers of government into three branches – Executive, Legislative, and Judicial – works brilliantly in the American political landscape.


Many American Christians firmly believe God’s Word, the Bible, and many go to church regularly to wash the dust from their hearts and lift their souls to a higher ground, to meet their Creator, to confess their sinful deeds, to ask for forgiveness, and to start another week on the right path to be pleasing to God. Many people in America live with this kind of attitude in getting along with others. They believe and trust each other. This reaffirms what has been said in China in recent years, “Planting one more church will lead to one less prison, one more Christian and one less criminal.”


Christian belief teaches us that God is God and man is man; only God is above us and he is omnipotent. Man will always be under God’s authority, and man can never be above God. This concept of God’s rule over man automatically limits earthly rulers’ power, minimizing one’s power hungry, self-seeking ambition. Even the most powerful political ruler needs to be humble when facing citizens’ demand. The famous, the powerful, and the popular need to examine themselves in the presence of God, for disobedience to God means self-destruction personally, politically, financially and/or professionally. According to American political thoughts, liberty, equality, and democracy are as absolutely important as one’s bloodline. On the contrary, Americans cannot tolerate dictatorship, special privileges, and favoritism.


Most of us also understand that a belief system can be very influential in every aspect of a person’s life (physical, relational, professional, as well as spiritual). Let me give you two examples to explain my point. There were vast differences between the descendants of two families of the same era. One family was that of a great Christian preacher, Jonathan Edwards, and the other of Max Jukes, a well-known atheist. Max Jukes once said to Pastor Edwards: “I will never believe in your Jesus.”


Jonathan Edwards, the Puritan preacher from the 1700’s, and his wife Sarah left a great godly legacy for his 11 children. In 1900, Pastor A.E. Winship decided to trace the descendants of Jonathan Edwards almost 150 years after his death. His findings are astounding, especially when compared to the descendants of Max Jukes.


Jonathan Edwards’ Godly legacy included one U.S Vice-President, three U.S. senators, three governors, three mayors, 13 college presidents, 30 judges, 65 professors, 80 public office holders, 100 lawyers and 100 missionaries.


Max Jukes’ descendants included seven murderers, 60 thieves, 50 women of debauchery, 130 other convicts, 310 paupers and 400 who were physically wrecked by indulgent living.


This is a powerful example showing how a parent’s leadership can have a profound effect on his children. Principles matter.


Christian culture does not discriminate in economics and business, and it even encourages people to become prosperous through hard work and laboring to gain fruits through blood and sweat. Protestants even go one step further to seek wealth and profit not for their own gain but to use properly for God’s purpose to glorify His name. Working ethically, living frugally, and tithing to God are considered by Christians virtuous living and obedience to God. John Wesley summed it up best when he said, “Work all you can, save all you can, and give all you can for His Kingdom.”


Nothing is by accident in the real world. Certain people can prove themselves with the passage of time to be honest, sincere, or vain and fake. Many of us have a hard time coming to terms with why China, a proud ancient nation with 5,000 years of history, is still struggling and searching in ways that America, a young country with barely 200 years of history, is not. From Jonathan Edwards’ family we can see the power of Christian belief. Two distinctive seeds were planted among the Edwards’ family from the beginning; the seed of love and goodness which produced so many physicians, professors, and college presidents, and the seed of worshipping and respecting the ultimate authority—God. Children taught to fear God and respect His authority will learn to be accountable and responsible for their own actions. Therefore, being humble and not proud is considered an admirable quality by Christians.


Today, looking around at our own people, I see deep in the hearts of those in power the love of money and position. What do they think of what I am saying? “Grandpa, what’s the use of Heaven?! I am the most powerful! There is nothing I dare not do!! Just look at me – how successful and how

powerful I am! I can do anything I want…” It is about the time for us to ponder on these two families, the Edwards vs. the Jukes. Let us learn from them and let us choose a belief system that is founded on the greatest love –that of Christ’s. This will give us unprecedented power to change us from the inside out. Remember, whoever possesses those two seeds will be truly successful down the road. This is the ultimate truth, a right belief system is the fastest way to powerful living.

English Translation by Catherine Liu, Dallas, TX

Jack Ma also has another interview here on how America has gone in very wrong directions in recent decades, especially changing to focus on wealth/greed/materialism and war in contrast to what it did in the past. This is causing many problems around the world and also in America.  Greed is the root of all evil according to the Bible and most religions. This can be seen in the history of America, China and pretty much every nation.  I have been saying the same thing as Jack Ma for many years on this issue and so have many American pastors and some professors.

Right now only ~4-10% of Americans have a biblical worldview and that is causing many problems inside America and in other countries.

Alibaba founder Jack Ma has a brutal theory of how America went wrong over the past 30 years

Jack Ma thinks America went wrong over the past 30 years by focusing too much on war and Wall Street.


“American international companies made millions and millions of dollars from globalisation,” Ma said.


“IBM, Microsoft,” he added, “the profit they made was larger than the top four banks in China put together … But where did the money go?”


At the same time, the US spent a lot of money on foreign conflicts.


“In the past 30 years, America had 13 wars spending $14.2 trillion … no matter how good your strategy is you’re supposed to spend money on your own people,” Ma said. “The money goes to Wall Street. Then what happened? Year 2008 wiped out $19.2 trillion in US income … What if the money was spent on the Midwest of the United States?”


” You did not distribute the money in the proper way.”

Many scientific studies also show that greed is enormously damaging to people, communities and nations. Some professors have found that when the top 20% in a nation have more wealth than the bottom 20%, all sorts of terrible problems become common in societies. This is a TED talk on that.  It explains why so many religions condemned greed as a horrible evil.